Review Comment

[PHIL C3192] Philosophy of Music Seminar

August 01, 2014

Goehr, Lydia Silver_nugget
[PHIL C3192] Philosophy of Music Seminar

I have taken many of Professor Goehr’s classes while at Columbia, and the Philosophy of Music senior seminar was my final class with her before graduating. I have become accustomed to the pedagogic style, which is not to spoon feed and coddle, but rather to seriously engage with students, debate, provoke independent thinking, and illuminate misnomers and gaps in knowledge while the class is in session, (as opposed to after the fact, or not at all, which is very much the case with many other profs at CU.) I count the critical thinking skills, and rhetorical and argumentative methods that I have gleaned from Professor Goehr as among my most valuable assets acquired during my BA. This class is arguably one of the most difficult she teaches, music philosophy being a notoriously complex and evasive subject of study. It is advisable to take at least one of her introductory courses to begin to understand what the expectations are, and how aesthetics differs from other branches of philosophy, and perhaps more importantly, how philosophy of music diverges from the philosophy of art. Professor Goehr is a leader in this area of research, so the opportunity to study the subject with her means one is at the forefront of enquiry in the field. As far as I am concerned, this academic challenge is what attending Columbia is all about, and has served me extremely well in my postgraduate studies.

Workload:

1 presentation, 1 13-15 page seminar paper.

July 28, 2014

Goehr, Lydia Silver_nugget
[PHIL C3192] Philosophy of Music Seminar

I have taken many of Professor Goehr’s classes while at Columbia, and the Philosophy of Music senior seminar was my final class with her before graduating. I have become accustomed to the pedagogic style, which is not to spoon feed and coddle, but rather to seriously engage with students, debate, provoke independent thinking, and illuminate misnomers and gaps in knowledge while the class is in session, (as opposed to after the fact, or not at all, which is very much the case with many other profs at CU.) I count the critical thinking skills, and rhetorical and argumentative methods that I have gleaned from Professor Goehr as among my most valuable assets acquired during my BA. This class is arguably one of the most difficult she teaches, music philosophy being a notoriously complex and evasive subject of study. It is advisable to take at least one of her introductory courses to begin to understand what the expectations are, and how aesthetics differs from other branches of philosophy, and perhaps more importantly, how philosophy of music diverges from the philosophy of art. Professor Goehr is a leader in this area of research, so the opportunity to study the subject with her means one is at the forefront of enquiry in the field. As far as I am concerned, this academic challenge is what attending Columbia is all about, and has served me extremely well in my postgraduate studies.

Workload:

1 presentation with another student, 12-15 page seminar paper.

December 26, 2012

Goehr, Lydia Silver_nugget
[PHIL C3192] Philosophy of Music Seminar

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The absolute worst professor I have had in my 4 undergrad years. She was rude and self-absorbed. Sure, she is very intelligent, but she is unapproachable and condescending to students. The first 2-3 weeks of class, students actively tried to participate in discussion, but by the end of the semester, everyone was afraid to talk because she might wag her finger at you (which she actually did in one class). She plays off her rudeness as if it is just sarcasm, except her sarcasm is not funny. She somehow always managed to talk about herself when lecture on other philosophers, and she did not encourage discussion or critical thought from her students. Often times, when students were giving their presentations, she would interrupt them, tell them they were wrong, and even not let the student finish their presentation.

Workload:

I stopped doing the readings after about 3 classes when I realized Professor Goehr did not encourage discussion in the seminar...

Directory Data

Dept/Subj Directory Course Professor Year Semester Time Section
PHIL / PHIL PHIL PHIL C3912: Seminar: Seminar: Music Lydia Goehr 2012 Fall M / 4:10- 6:00 PM 1